Dear Eric, >> But now my question is- what about the animals that we must (?) eat? What is the proper way to relate to them? It seems somewhat more problematic. Obviously that avoiding big Macs and other ecosystem destroying meat sources is wise, if possible. But what is the best way to actually obtain meat from an animal from the Hermetic standpoint? Is it possible to have animals 'happy to be living in my forest' at the time of sacrifice? I suppose it seems easier (but not necessarily better) if you purchase organic, range fed meat, and say thanks in some way. Most people can do this, but that leaves the 'dirty work' for the butcher. What about those who 'grow their own' or practice hunting and gathering? How would they best handle things? << I'd say that the native cultures of our own continent offer us an excellent example of how to create a "right" relationship to our sources of sustenance, be they animal, plant or mineral. The primary ingredients are respect, thankfulness and conscientiousness. In our modern setting where we buy our meats from a supermarket, this must be done after the fact since we have no direct contact with the animals we eat. It's the process I described in an earlier post. One establishes an inner contact with the spirit of the animal one is about to eat the flesh of, acknowledge their life and thank them for the sacrifice they made to feed you. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 25 Aug 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe