Dear Louis, >> The general experience was the same for both of them that they attributed different colors to different letters. The difference was how they associated different colors to different letters. I was wondering if the difference of perception/conception was because of the equilibrium being out of wack. << What creates this sort of difference is that these folks have processed their mental perception through their subjectifying astral senses. This means that the essential meaning has been given a layer of personalized symbolism that's relevant to the individual. For example, the essential meaning of the letter 'A' might be interpreted as yellow by one and blue by another, but the essential meaning itself is the same in both cases. It's just that yellow more closely represents one individual's experience of the essential meaning and blue, the experience of the other person. >> ***I guess I am trying to get at the question if Bardon's system of Kaballah is arbitrary with some of the associations which become True and Factual over time, or if it is true to begin with.*** << It is "true to begin with", as you put it. The colors that Bardon listed are based upon the *direct perception* of the essential meaning conveyed by the mental pronunciation of the letters (i.e, the shaping of the mouth but without breath and vibration of the vocal chords). My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 28 Sept 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe