Dear Kiyan, Welcome to BardonPraxis. :) Sorry it took so long for me to get your intro onto the list but I was away this past weekend and didn't return until this afternoon. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 26 July 2004 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kiyan Smith" <fist_of_mars@...> To: "BardonPraxis Moderator" <BardonPraxis-owner@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 11:23 PM Subject: Introducing ... before questions Hello, my name is Kiyan, and I have recently developed a serious interest in the book "Initiation into Hermetics." When I was very young, I had an interest in witchcraft. My mother introduced me to many psychological methods based on est and NLP. These were helpful tools, but, of course, lacked a spiritual foundation. Like many occultists, I came across books by chance, almost as if they "fell into my lap." >From very basic witchcraft I shifted to an intense focus on Crowley. I was fascinated by his intellect and personality. I've read his autohagiography twice, and own many of his cornerstone works. Still, his system is very confusing, and while I use much of his writing (for instance the Book of Thoth for interpreting the paths) I find most of his writing requires too much cross-referencing. Also, I think his ego gets in the way too often. I still value his works, however. Recently I have been studying the Qabalah and working upon the tree. I plan to continue my quabalistic studies while I work upon Bardon's initiation methodology. I suppose I should mention that I sustain a personal magic system that is entirely unique, retained since early childhood. In fact it so unique that there is no purpose in saying anything else about it. I guess I want people out there to know it's ok to have their own magical creations. I am drawn to Bardon mostly because of a sense of his earnestness and purity of heart. I hope to fulfill initiation so I may "love under will" to the utmost of my power. Over the next few days I will have many questions and I hope to use this group to sort through these. If some may find these questions naive, then so be it. I still intend to ask these questions. I have searched the message archives but not found the answers. I know someone out there can help me. Well, I have said enough. Fist of Mars is my moniker because recently I have felt a need to draw upon the force of Geburah. Talk to you soon, Kiyan fist_of_mars@... BardonPraxis Moderator <BardonPraxis-owner@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [Automated message] Hello, Thank you for joining the "Bardon Praxis" group! :) This is a moderated group specifically for those who are actively pursuing the work of Franz Bardon's "Initiation Into Hermetics", "The Practice of Magical Evocation" and/or "The Key to the True Quabbalah". Discussion will be limited to practical and theoretical issues *directly* related the pursuit of Bardon's system of initiation. Since this is a moderated group, I will examine all submissions for relevance before they are posted to the website and to the rest of the membership. My moderation of posts will adhere to two *absolute* rules: #1) All posts *must* be clearly relevant to the Bardon work. #2)Absolutely *no* rude or disrespectful posts will be allowed. This doesn't mean that I will limit Bardon-related discussion, nor that I will be micro-managing interpersonal relations amongst the membership. ;-) I simply wish to create a focused discussion group, within parameters that will guarantee focus instead of distraction. All members may post whatever they want to the "Files", Photos", Links", "Polls" and "Calendar" sections of the BardonPraxis homepage, so long as it pertains to the Bardon work. Links to these sections can be found at the left-hand side of the BardonPraxis homepage. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis/ If you feel so inclined, please reply to this email with a brief introduction of yourself and I will forward it to the entire list. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark Moderator, BardonPraxis BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail