Dear Geoffrey,, >> Now, I am confused. :) From what I understand from Bardon's book in the Emptiness of Mind, is that I should resist with all my strength from thoughts are coming in. I think there is a line where it is stated somethign like that. Rawn, did I understand Bardon correctly? << You have understood Bardon correctly. I think the confusion is rooted in the fact that Pedro's comment was in reference to the *passive observer exercise*, not the emptiness of mind. >> Whenever a thought arises, I just shift my focus out of it by not thinking of it - "not attached to it". And later on the thought just disappear because no thinking process is being given to it. And of course, another thought will come in, and I just do it again. Shifting my focus out. But by doing this, I don't care about the thoughts coming in. So I don't think even meaningful thoughts will come in. Because I shift out of the thoughts everytime. << That is the absolutely correct way to do it! :) >> And just a question too, is there a maximum length to be devoted to the Emptiness of Mind exercise everyday (like 30 minutes?)? << No, there is no maximum. Bardon states a minimum of 10 minutes, uninterrupted, in order to pass Step One, but doesn't state a maximum. The emptiness is a very benign state and not harmful in large doses. :) My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 07 Jan 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis