To Luca Provenza, about the Anger mail. This quote will abbreviate this mail, for those who don't have the time or will to read it. Jesus Christ once said "He who has not sinned, throw the first rock". In no way, I'm an expert at expressing, either myself or any kind of messianic word, but I'll give you my opinion, as you requested. I sense that you are in need of some feeback, therefore, I will allow my senses to lead me on this one. ;) Everyday, each one of us meet situations like that. And it appears to me that those aren't even extreme. Simply think about the hungry and/or miserable children all over the world, and at the fact that you have a computer, with an internet connection, a home, never spent a day lacking anything essencial, etc... Under that perspective, I could also make a post, about how all of us live under some kind of luxury, and all, and we could be using the money to feed children, blah blah (this isn't a "blah blah" with disdain over the matter, I'm simply trying to cut this into fewer words). You, Luca, and all of those that haven't, must acknowledge that different people live in different ways, and think differently. Even though Bardon claims that any kind of extreme behaviour isn't, most of the times, good at all, that doesn't make ascetism wrong. He simply states it isn't apropriate for eveyone. Using the Principle of Correspondence (so above as below), I grant that those people you meet, are simply different from you. Neither better or worse... perhaps that tall, chauvanist muscled man will, in a couple of weeks, months or years, become enlightened "out of nowhere", and start practicing Hermetics, and even join us in this mailing list and, possibly, even be your Initiator, if you join some kind of Fraternity. Do not judge them, Luca. Look inside, and know that you are also wrong in many ways. Do not judge the society, for you feed it, though in a different way. Relax, lay back, and think (meditate?) on that subject. Stop the concentration exercises, until you improve your innerself. Messianic tasks, are only for those who are ready for them. Demand more on yourself, than over the others. Find the truth inside of you and, if so, be happy for knowing that, in some way, you are better than them. I hope some of this helps in any way. If you don't agree with everything, what better place could exist to debate such matters? :) Pardon my spelling. I'm portuguese. Yours Truly João Miguel Grilo Nobre Marques