Dear Peter, >> I agree. To use a rather bad pun that is rather appropriate at this moment, "We're both two voices trying to explain the totality of essential meaning." Being that essential meaning is something that can not be explained in words, due to the intrinsic nature that essential meaning is something that has to be percieved and experienced, we're both just lending our own interpritation, our own voice of essential meaning to try to explain it. << ;-) Yes. My focus, primarily, is in describing *how* to reach a direct perception of essential meaning, as opposed to trying to describe the indescribable itself. Alas, being that we're so "left-brain oriented", it's nearly impossible for me to say "just do this" without the necessity of attempting to describe what it is that "doing this" results in. I think this tends to complicate the process of learning *how* to directly perceive essential meaning, which, in and of itself, is the essence of simplicity. >> Your coming from a pure Hermetic perspective, whereas I come from a perspective that mixes the modern understanding of psychology and neurophysiology with Hermetics and meditation. While you did previously state that using the split brain theory will only get me so far, I do believe that it is a good starting point for further progress along the path. << Since I have so immersed myself in Hermetic thought, I find no need to reference other systems in order to understand Hermetic principles. The same with kabbalah. This is how I learn something new -- immersion. I immerse myself in the mind-set of what I'm learning instead of splitting myself between two different mind-sets. But I recognize that not everyone studies and learns in this same way and, in fact, most folks learn better by relating a new study to a past study and by trying to understand the new through the lens of the familiar. The essential problem with this is that one can easily miss out on the depth of the new study by not capturing its entire mind-set. At some point one must think solely in terms of the new study and forego the internal translation between old and new. It's sort of like learning a new language. At first each word is translated internally, but eventually, one begins to think directly in the new language without the internal translation. When I said that the split brain theory will only take you so far, this is what I meant. There are also Hermetic precepts which clearly explain the same apparent split but they do so in an Hermetic manner, with an Hermetic mind-set, and IMO much more fully and concisely (not to mention, practically) than the split brain theory. The split brain theory comprehends only a part of the total human being; whereas, Hermetic theory considers the whole, multi-dimensional being in its understanding. It's the relationship between the apparent split and the whole, multi-dimensional being, that serves up the truly practical uses of this knowledge; whereas to my mind, the split brain theory alone is not very applicable in so far as practicing magic goes. One problem that I, as an Hermeticist, see with the split brain theory is that it infers a true split between two discrete types of mental function. From the Hermetic perspective however, there is not a true split. Instead it's a hierarchy of function. For example, the intuitive "left-brain" is *always* active and is a precursor to the rational "right-brain" function. In other words, we're *always* perceiving essential meaning but we're not always using our rational logic. Furthermore, these two aspects of Mind function *together*, like hand-in-glove, in our mundane, day-to-day awareness. >> I have this extra set of knowledge that science has provided, so I might as well use it. << Good! :) Even though I suffer a severe case of Hermeticitus, compounded by Kabbalitus [ ;-) ], I do respect and appreciate the ability of others, such as yourself, to translate between Hermetic thought and other disciplines! :) My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 24 May 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe