Hi, Cool link! I had never read this bit before. Very interesting. In it Bardon says: "There is no magic without mysticism, i.e. no substance without influences, effects and manifestations, since these two fundamental basic concepts are dependent on each other. Magic may not be separated from mysticism, and both have to be dealt with at the same time and in a like manner. In his studies, the Hermetic must always proceed in a magical and mystical manner; that is, he must always bear in mind both quantity and quality, and he must be able to differentiate distinctly between quantity (for example, power in matter and substances) and quality (for example attributes, effects, influences, and the like). He must never confuse the two concepts if he does not wish to create chaos. Remember! Magic is quantity and mysticism is quality! When, in the chapters that follow, I speak of quantities, I will always mean magic. When talking about influences, attributes, abilities, virtues, and so forth, I will be referring to mysticism. This has been a universal law from the beginning of the world and it will remain a universal law until its end!" I would like to get some clarification on his terms *quantity* and *quality* relating to magic and mysticism. It seems to me he is using them like- cause and effect creator and created akasha -> -> -> earth, etc. Am I understanding this correctly? Thanks Alan --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Cosgrove" <martincosgrove@g...> wrote: > Dear all, > > The surviving section of Franz Bardon's 'The Golden Book of Wisdom' as presented in the English edition of 'Frabato the Magician' can be found online at: > > http://mysite.freeserve.com/fourth_tarot/index.html > > Regards, > > Martin > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]