The topic of silence was discussed some time ago :) Here are the links to original (my own) question and Rawn answers - it should give some light to these new topics on this subject.. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis/message/195 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis/message/192 Sometimes it's a good idea to dig into the archives - there's lot of knowledge just waiting for discovery :D Take care, Alex [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]