Dear Chuck, The ultimate goal of the character transformation is the complete positivization of the personality. Bardon speaks of "balance" in Step Two because the goal for Step Two, in this regard, is the transformation of the most outstanding negative traits. By the end of Step Two the initiate must have established a rudimentary 'balance' wherein the major negative traits have been positivized and there is, at least, a balance between positive and negative. In Step Three, this process is continued and by the end, the rudimentary 'Equilibrium' attained wherein only very minor negative traits remain untransformed. >> Question 1: To balance a negative water trait, ... << You are not "balancing" or "eliminating" the negative traits. Instead, you are *transforming* them. You will find items in the positive mirror that can help in this transformation, but it's not just a matter of increasing an opposing positive trait. >> Question 2: Kind of an odd question, though some of us come out of a particular statment with our own individual and unique understandings, grins. Is the balancing of elements ideas in this section and personal exercises to balance the positive traits also? To a medium elemental trait. << No. At some point, you will work to strengthen your weaker positive traits until all your positive traits have a similar degree of strength. There is no "dumbing down", so to speak, of your positive traits. >> I ask this because some of my positive traits (listening too much to people at times, when I could agress and not give up my time and accomplish some task I must do instead) is an excessive positive trait of being a good listener. This obviously needs to be curtailed, cut back, so that I get a practical task accomplished which is being delayed by over giving of my time to listening. Now does this water/positive trait of being a good listener, though in excessive giving of time to listening it becomes a water/negative trait have to be balanced with the opposite water polarity trait or the opposing element opposite polarity trait? Some good/positive qualities can be in excess and become negative traits also is my point. << An excess such as you describe is a negative trait, not a positive one. Being a good listener is indeed a positive trait, but the excess of it is not. Often, an excess such as this, which wears a positive face, has nothing to do with the positive face. In other words, the positive trait of being a good listener and the negative trait of leaving your other commitments unattended because you've been listening too long, are two separate issues, each with a different root. The one belongs in your positive mirror and the other in your negative mirror. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 19 Jul 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe