Dear NB, >> Talking about quality, my EOM practice starts provoking quasi-ecstatic states :-):-) No only I do reach EOM - which is not difficult to sustain now- , but I feel as-if I lots of endorphins were generated. Really cool :-) << Hey, congratulations on your progress with the EOM! :) One word of caution: Don't let the *physical* and *emotional* sensations of ecstacy take you out of your EOM. This is another layer of mind that, within the EOM state, must also be let go of. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 10 Nov 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe