Dear David, >> What do I do if I am trying to practice emptiness of mind and hypnagogic (pre-sleep) imagery keeps coming up? They aren't entirely consciously controlled, more like random images that pop into my head, and my mind is fuzzied from fatigue or something so I have a harder time focusing. Should I just refrain from EOM practice if I am somewhat sleepy, or is this a common phenomenon which represents the next layer of "thoughts" to be eliminated? << If this wasn't happening around your being sleepy, I'd say you were encountering another of the many layers one encounters with continued practice of the EOM. But since it is associated with sleepiness, this sounds more like you're actually falling asleep and then waking up, perhaps over and over very rapidly. I recommend that you practice the EOM when you're wide awake. Which means either learning how to wake yourself up or doing your EOM exercise at another time. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 10 Nov 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe