Dear Rawn, Thank you for your reply. Here are two passages from some material I have been reading lately concerning the Kabbalah and which prompted me to consider the selfishness of man and the nature of desires. Have I misinterpreted these thoughts or are they simply not compatible with the Western Hermetic tradition and Bardonism? Forgive me posting these fairly lengthy quotations, but I do not want to distort the intended meaning behind them any further by paraphrasing Martin Selected Topics in Kabbalah - Kabbalist Rabbi Michael Laitman from http://www.kabbalah.info/engkab/selected.htm "Selfishness, which separates our perception from true knowledge, can only be found in man. This is not the case with the Creator because perfection and openness define his relation to man. The absence of the Creator is only felt by a man who dissimulates the worlds from himself, as if he were hiding behind the veils of his own selfishness. The removal of selfishness does not occur all at once. In the beginning, the Creator grants man periods of time corresponding to lives in this world as an opportunity to elevate himself spiritually. Man is master of the whole process. During each of his consecutive lives, man must remove a certain part of his selfish nature and draw himself closer to the Creator. Man will repeat a new life as long as he does not correct himself. Correction means that his desires termed "body" in Kabbalah will no longer form a barrier between him and the Creator. When this occurs man's attributes will bond him with the Creator regardless of the world in which man finds himself." "The 613 desires of the soul are divided into 248 positive desires, through which man can acquire a "li chema" intention, and 365 negative desires man cannot use in order to gain a "li chema" intent. The difference between the two desires has nothing to do with intention. In both cases the intention is naturally and exclusively "turned toward the Creator". The difference lies in the power of the desire itself: if the desire is weak it will not awaken intense pleasure. However, this desire enables one to feel the bond with the Creator. The pleasure sensed is called the pleasure to give without restraint. That is to say the desire to please the Creator as it is only possible to please Him by receiving from him. But since this desire cannot be felt with sufficient intensity, it cannot truly give to the Creator. This desire exists only at the level of equivalence of form with the Creator. All desires born in man are selfish desires. This is the desire to receive for one?s own pleasure. Only the intention "turned toward the Creator" will transform it into an altruistic desire. Hence the difference solely lies in the intent. That?s what makes Kabbalah so important. It helps us transform our intent. The intention "turned toward the Creator" is called "screen" because it prevents one from "receiving for oneself" and generates the intention "turned towards the Creator"." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]