The time formula that I use for making Seals in the corect hour (as per "The Seals of Solomon". Sun/rise only marks the first hour at the Equator. I asked a Jewish friend of mine when Shabot started and of course his reply was around 18 minutes befire sunset The Hebrews lived within the Tropic of Cancer and sun/rise solar/time did not chang much year around. If one lived in Alaska in the midle of Winter or Summer then when would Shabot start? The way I do this is Measure the length of night any time of year i.e. when the nights are 14 hours long then devide this by 2 and we get 7 hrs long, then we can see where the center of night is say for example 1:30 AM. Them we go forward 6 hours from the established middle of the night and bingo it is 7:30 AM and that marks the begaining of the first hour of the day whether daylight is visable or not (any time of year) at your own Lonitude & Latidude any where on the planit. My question is can this formula also mark the first AM hour of VeHU- iah (of the 72 Genies of Mercury)that Bardon taught about ? RS