Dear Joa, I remember once reading a comment from Rawn, where he said that we should learn to distinguish a *thought* from a *concern*. Your concern should be emptiness of mind - true. However, thought and concern are not the same, and thus there is no contradiction here. Maybe meditating on the difference between the two will help you to progress with the exercise? Just give it a shot. Yours, David --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@n...> wrote: > Dear Joa, > > >> I must confess that the "Mastery of thoughts" exercise has me "dazed > and confused" :) Like you say in your great commentary upon Initiation > into hermetics, this exercise involves the attainment of a vacancy of > mind or an absence of thoughts. But now you say that "Ideally, you are > *aware* of yourself throughout the experience, but aware without > thinking". To me, this is a great contradiction, because if you are > aware, evidently you are thinking. << > > This is a common misconception brought about by the fact that most often > we reside totally within the surface awareness where thinking and > awareness are seemingly inseparable. In reality though, thinking and > awareness are two separate functions of the mental body. Thinking is > *an aspect of* or power of awareness. The EOM exercise teaches you to > separate thinking from awareness and focus entirely upon just awareness > by setting aside thought. > > I would suggest that the fact that you are convinced that the separation > of thinking from awareness is impossible, is the reason why you find > this exercise so difficult. Perhaps Lesson Three of my "Self- Healing > Archaeous" audio series might help you to *experientially* (as opposed > to just intellectually) grasp the true nature of the mental body and the > attributes, or powers, of conscious awareness. You can find the script > of Lesson Three at http://www.ABardonCompanion.com/Arch03.html or > download the audio file at > http://www.ABardonCompanion.com/MP3-Links.html > > My best to you, > :) Rawn Clark > 19 Feb 2004 > rawnclark@n... > rawn@a... > http://www.ABardonCompanion.com > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis > http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe