Dear Erve, et al, >> but i think this mail from Rawn is incomplete..or maibe it's a problem on my pc...i don't find any attachment of sort to get the message!!! << I did not send that message (I wasn't even home yet). It appears to have been some sort of virus (hence the supposed attachment which yahoogroups strips from the message before posting it to the group). So please ignore that message. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 25 Sept 2004 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe