Hi Y'all You make the introspection part seem so confusing.... Here is how I did I would do a life review and see how I acted in as many events as I could remember. Then I would classify them according to the elements and subdivide their frequency accordingly. Larry -------Original Message------- From: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com Date: 01/22/05 18:11:06 To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BardonPraxis] Introspection and search for the root cause and correlations ? Hi all I forgot some general issiues/questions about introspection concerning search for root-cause and correlations. Generally, as Rawn mentioned, all root cause is found within the mental plane. So you have to find out your *present* traits and root causes (guided from the inner voice of the Greater self filtered witin your mental) and then simoultanously transforming mental-astral- act in step 2 ..sounds clear and quite "easy" as far as this concerns ... BUT ... *smile* ... : 1.) Bardon also mentions - in order to find all your negative traits - to go back into your *past*. Does this also mean finding the root time point, when a certain problem or negative behaviour occured for the first time in childhood or within this incarnation? William Mistele mentioned once the example, that even if someone has brought his character into balance to some degree at present time, but has not yet explored some doors closed, some past events ... he might loose his balance one day because it was not grounded deep enough or might not become fully integrated. 2.) One of my teachers described a correlation between the Astral - Iesod - and family/ child-parents/generation issus (like Hellinger stuff). The idea here is that a lot (or all) of emotional imbalances or negative traits come from unsolved child-parent or even - somehow beyond the individual itself - generation/family stuff and several negative individual traits would just be symptoms whereas the root ause would be found within a correlation between individual/family and therefore somehow *transcending the individual*. Now, what is the real and deeper root cause here, familiy - generations stuff or still mental root (together with astral-acting) rather to be transformed within the individual first (with automatic harmonising effect to family correlations/constellations as well)? 3.) Then, from chinese Medecine we do know a certain correlation between inner organs and emotions. For example, fear might be caused by the kidneys (and meridians belonging to them). So the root cause would rather be found and cured between a correlation context or body- mind instead of fixing the root to a mental plane. Practically said, according to this model (and from my experience there is some truth behind) - even if you would be *temporarly* successfull in changing your thought-habit (fear), it would not be healed as long as the function of the kindney-Chi is not regulated and healed. At least and perhaps best way would be to bring all aspect together into balance mind-soul-body (+kidney Chi). So, is it right to point the root causes to the mental (astral-act) without involve the *correlation between inner organs/meridians and mental*? 4.) According to homoepathy, there is some correlation between meta- mental root cause correlated within body *constitution*. One speaks of finding the remedy that is right for the individual constitution/physique and character. Is a constitution not much deeper than mental-astral patterns or just outer behaviour? And what's the precise correlation between mental root, character and constitution? Conclusion Such reflections *could* make the whole thing (introspection and character developing) much more complex or even confusing ... ;) Is introspection and character transforming methods as Bardon it described enough for most students, to really integrate and transform all past negative incarnations traits (to reach a really well basic grounded Equilibrium according step 2) without use of such theoretical models or practical methods like Hellinger, focusing, transpersonal psych, general psychological knowledge etc. etc.? Would you eventually integrate them (or some of them) while Introspection (as surch for root cause) or just use them afterwards together wits step 2 (practically) - individually - as a possible supplementation? Thanks for your clarifications, ideas or suggestions Patrik ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WwRTUD/SOnJAA/i1hLAA/wpWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]