Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: desire in hermeticism

[Serpentis Satori <serpentsatori@...>]

LVX
Just in that you lack an ego to participate in "human drama" and "self-created 
suffering". You just handle it in a more detached way, but in fact you come in 
contact with great suffering and sorrow at that level, because it reminds you 
of the import of Compassion/The Great Work.
So you spend more time being selfless, and helping others who seek Liberation.
LVX
Frater Serpentis Satori

hermetics10 <hermetics10@...> wrote:

Frater Serpentis Satori,

I was just thinking that when you reached the level of perfection 
then you would have control over how much suffering you would 
encounter.

Ardeshir

--- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, Serpentis Satori 
<serpentsatori@y...> wrote:
> LVX
> Well Alchemic Hermeticism (Rosey Cross School at least), 
espouses something akin to the Buddhasitva Oath, that is often 
called Making the World Gold, or The Great Elevation which will end 
suffering, but as you say, through a radically different means.
> Evola wrote a book about Buddhism that is very good, and 
Crowley's teacher Alan Benet founded the British Buddhist Society, 
so this hybrid of both Buddhism & Hermeticism at least dates to the 
Edwardian Age. Bardon seems very familiar with much of Tibetian 
Theory, likely Evens-Wentz as well.
> LVX
> Frater Serpentis Satori
> 
> hermetics10 <hermetics10@y...> wrote:
> 
> Serpentis Satori,
> 
> Thank you for your reply. I understood what you said. From my 
> understanding Hermeticism doesn't espouse Buddhism's goal of non-
> existence and non-involvement which I ultimately see as also 
serving 
> the purpose of the cessationg of suffering though through a 
> different outlook or goal.
> 
> Thank you again for your reply.
> 
> beginner
> 
> --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, Serpentis Satori 
> <serpentsatori@y...> wrote:
> > LVX
> > Hermeticism is focused on purifying ourselves, so we may 
rejoin 
> our divinity while training our Will in many sub-sytems. Buddhism 
is 
> focused upon releasing us from the chains & imprisonment of 
> Ignorance so we will cease incarnation. These goals only 
> supperficially contradict each other.
> > Hermeticism often sees The Will, as the only other Absolute 
> after The Creator/The Divine, and so it is spoken of in similar 
> reverance. This is the Arete of Homer, The True Will of Crowley 
(of 
> similar thought by Bardon check the list archives!), and the 
Purpose 
> of Matrix:Reloaded. The entire Path of Hermeticism serves this 
end, 
> every Grade Initiation or Exercise strengthen that, from Banishing 
> Circle to Bornless One & Beyond.
> > Buddhism is as Evens-Wynz put it " the ethical system for the 
> science of yoga", and is not so much about Refusing Desire, as it 
is 
> about Release from Attachments, though Lust/Hunger is an 
Attachment. 
> This is the Path to Enlightenment, the gradual freedom from 
> attachment until one is Enlightened and no longer imprisoned by 
> Ignorance.
> > These goals, though stated as different, can be 
complimentary 
> and eventually I believe their will come greater synthesis between 
> the Great Systems of the East and West. But to do that Hermeticism 
> must be founded on truth, with Will and Evolution as its pillars. 
> The complementary Buddhism is often Zen or Dzogchan, both focusing 
> upon the Inherent Purity of all, but giving techniques to remember 
> our perfection, much like Hermeticism.
> > Feel free to post me privately if you need further 
> clarification in this,
> > Frater Serpentis Satori
> > 
> > hermetics10 <hermetics10@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Buddhism views desire as a bad thing? What is Hermeticism's view 
> on 
> > desire? Does desire impede becoming pure which is a main goal of 
> > Hermeticism?
> > 
> > beginner
> > 
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