Hello Volzotan! Good point! Let me continue your symbolism with a counter, if i may. What Bardon gives you in IIH, PME, KTQ is how to build from scratch all of your mountaineering gear and implements. What i am *suggesting* is that on completes the soul mirror with the steps on concentration and vom, loading food/water and simple imagination skills. This would be enough to begin serious contemplation/invocation of personal Deity. Returning to mountain climbing metaphors you would buy your equipment, learn how to climb and climb yourfirst small mountain. This gained one could then progress to higher and higher mountains (Deity) until one can accept The All. Take a look at Raja yoga. Or to put it like someone once did "sit down, pay attention and get out." I understand completely your disagreement with my thoughts, if some one told me the same thing months ago i would have done the same, like i said this is what *I* will do. I am not trying to evangelize, or convert. I just want to walk down the path straight to divinity without stopping and pickingevery pretty flower i see. Best of wishes on your path! Volzotan Smeik <volzotan@...> wrote: On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:21:21 -0800 (PST), Justin B <devilsgoatee@...> wrote: >I think Bardon presented you with ALL the DETAILS. Again this is just **MY** view > and i have discussed this with a few others and they see the logic. What logic? Imagine you just climbed your first tree and you have heard of Nanga Parbat. Do you think taking a trip with a helicopter to the top of the mountain makes you a better moutaineer? Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT Children InternationalWould you give Hope to a Child in need? ·Click Hereto meet a Girl And Give Her Hope·Click Here to meet a Boy And Change His Life Learn More --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BardonPraxis-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Justin B "insert thought provoking quote here" --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]