Dear Jeni, Yes, that's pretty much the idea that Lao Zi, more commonly known as Lao Tsu, within the Dao De Jing that he is said to have written. The Dao, is something that is incomprehensible. If it is named, then that is not it. It is sometimes considered within Daoist cosmology to be the "creative spark" that came before the state of wuji, chaos, the undiferentiated ultimate, and continues to help sustain existence as a web of interconnectivity between all things. In this respect, the Dao, if represented upon the tree of life, would be that which came before kether in one form, and the whole of the tree, the paths and gates in particulate, in another form. Though, in trying to pin something down in this manner one excludes numerous other interpritations at the very same time. For those of you wishing to see a visual representation of what I was talking about should go to John Painter's site here: http://www.ninedragonbaguazhang.com/jiulongqi.htm The diagram at the bottom is the one that I am refering to. Which is also one of the earliest renditions of the Taiji symbol. In which case, a certian visual similarity with the tree of life comes to into play as well. Live well, Peter Reist --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer Jones" <jennifer_jones@s...> wrote: > Peter, Welcome: > I like your statements about the "true Dao." What I hear you saying is It's > kind of like, if you think you know God then you don't, because you are > thinking? > (I live in Ottawa, neighbour) > Jeni > -----