Dear Rawn, >>>> Fluid condensers do not themselves automatically attract a charge of the Fluids. They have to be loaded with an accumulation by the magician. The one exception to this rule is the Philosopher's Stone. What distinguishes a Fluid condenser from any other thing which naturally is composed of the Fluids&Elements, is the fact that a condenser is capable of *holding* an accumulation. Non-condensers will immediately radiate an accumulation and are not capable of holding on to the accumulation once charged.<<<< So then the human body would itself be a fluid condenser in and of itself, correct? After, through the numerous exercises in IIH Bardon has the student drawing in and accumulating the elements, fluids and lights within the self. However, at the same time, I do believe Bardon writes that you should gradually increase the accumulated charge within the body so not to overload the body like a capacitor or a circut breaker. In which case the intrinsic ability for the body to retain an accumulated charge can be changed with practice. Or is this rather because we are something that is naturally composed of the fluids and elements? What is the difference between a fluid condenser and a substance that is naturally composed of the fluids and elements? Also, isn't pretty much everything composed of the fluids and elements? >>>>You are correct in your idea of astral and mental condensers. A physical Fluid condenser immediately effects all three realms simultaneously and must be created within the physical realm, out of physical materia; an astral condenser, effects the astral and mental realms simultaneously and must be created within the astral realm, out of astral materia; and a mental condenser, effects only the mental realm immediately and, likewise, must be created within the mental realm, out of mental materia. The process of creating astral and mental condensers requires a ficility with each of these realms and the direct manipulation of their respective materia. For example, in order to create an astral condenser you would need to directly shape the astral materia itself, be able to finalize its form (i.e., give it stable duration), and then load it with an appropriate accumulation of Fluids/Elements. All of these tasks would need to be carried out within the astral realm.<<<<< I might be totally off base here, but isn't that the procedure within the first few steps of The Key to True Quaballah? Which might account for the changes that happen when one works with those exercises. Live well, Peter Reist