Dear Rawn, There is something I don't clearly understand concerning the Elements, if I may. In your comments concerning IIH, you mention : a) <<The Fluids are the two primal forces and the Elements are their extension or modifications.>> >From what I understood that the Fluids are the cause and the Elements the Effect, therefore that the electrical fluid itself is provoking a change from "active" to "passive/negative" in Fire e.g. But I re-read the previous sentence : b) <<Within the Fire Element, the Electric Fluid is found in the Fire's expansiveness>>. which seems to slightly contradict a), and also seems to imply that there should no be any fluid in Fire since it shows the opposite of "expansiveness" under its negative form : "destructive, contracting etc." Does this mean that the fluid provokes the change and "withdraws" from the Element :-) ? Or does that mean that the Fluid ITSELF changes its effects/polarity along with the Element - which I did not find in the texts ? And if the Fluid is absent from the Element when in passive form, how can the Element change its polarity without the Fluid "coming back " ? Oooof. Hope you'll understand the question. What did I miss ? Many thanks. Newbie. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com