Dear Vovin, >> I guess the question is this: Where does thought begin and the active process of consciousness end? << The "active process of consciousness" doesn't end, it merely takes on form through thought, word and deed. I very much enjoyed your analysis. It shows that you've gotten from the observation exercise what it was that you were supposed to get. :) Essentially, what you have described are the three Elemental regions of the mental body which are permeated with thought. Earth region = >> * Linguistic thought -> Linguistic thought is a result rather than a cause; it seems to be the intellectual emphasis of inner or abstract thought, as to consciously convey its meaning to the physical brain or memory. It, too, can seem to have a life of its own, although in fact it then operates solely as a echo of memory or other diverse seperate phenomena. << Water region = >> * Abstract thought -> Abstract thought, on the other hand, is the first inner level of deviation from the focus of action/purpose. If pursued, it tends to objectify into linguistic thought, and subsequentially distract the focus of inner thought's action/purpose. It seemingly has a life of its own, and follows memory/association patterns rather than the action/purpose/ideation process. << Air region = >> * Inner thought -> Inner thought is in other words the ideation-process itself. It is extremely "close" to the center of awareness, and races alongside the stream of awareness as if inseperatable from it. Attempting to observe it, _is_ thinking of observing it. It is the mental equivalent of action, or purpose itself. << This leaves the Fire region which you will encounter directly in the emptiness of mind exercise. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 21 Jan 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis