--- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, Amberlyn <amberlyn@c...> wrote: > Greetings All, > > One > who is headstrong is stubbornly, often recklessly willful (i.e. Fire within > Earth). Stiff-necked implies stubbornness combined with arrogance or > aloofness (Air within Earth). Bullheaded suggests foolish or irrational > obstinacy (Water within Earth), and pigheaded, stupid obstinacy. Mulish > implies the obstinacy and intractability associated with a mule. Dogged > emphasizes stubborn perseverance: dogged persistence. Pertinacious stresses > a tenacity of purpose, opinion, or course of action that is sometimes > viewed as vexatious. This is interesting; your approach to breaking down the 'nature' of traits here seems to be based greatly on semantics/linguistics. This made me wonder how much our language influences our thoughts and as a result, how we view characteristics in terms of the elements. Surely a characteristic should have a 'pure' form which is above semantic classification, or else people who speak different language will classify traits differently because of the different linguistic implications of a particular word. For example, you talk about someone being 'headstrong' and say that this is a trait of fire within earth. But what about 'hotheaded'? Is that fire simply because of the implication of heat? The Spanish translation of 'hotheaded' would be 'exaltado' which has no connection with heat; would a Spaniard then find it as easy to classify this trait? The Spanish word for 'mulish' would be 'trozudo' but there is no connection with a mule, it simply means stubborn... so languages which may not have as many synonyms might also have shorter soul mirror lists ;-) Thanks for your postings about the elements, I've found them to be extremely interesting and thought-provoking. Martin