That's happened to me before - usually right before I fall into a full trance state. It's a real, physical sensation, at least for me, and again for me it was kind of uncomfortable - I think that, as you get closer to trance, you become more aware of these things that you don't when you're in a normal, active "I'm watching TV/going to work/staying awake in class" state. As for what it actually is, well - when you're learning archery or how to shoot a gun, you're made aware that your entire body vibrates when your heart beats, so I've always held that it's just you becoming more aware of the echoes. There's probably other explanations, but there's mine. Hope this helps. - Basim --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Maximiliano Markous" <mmarkous@f...> wrote: > As I get more relaxed during the mental exercises ( specially if I´m lying down ) I start to perceive the rythm of my respiration and ( later ) of my heart more clearly. If I gert more relaxed I begin to experience a third beat. It´s like a throb but it doesn´t come from my heart...it´s like some pulsating energy mainly focused on my chest and abdomen. I don´t perceive all the time because I think is motre subtle than my respiration or heartbeat. > Has anybody experience this and know what it is? or I´m alucinating?? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]