Hi IOX137, If you encourage the mind to grow, the ego to feel superior, even to become one with your "ideal" of God, then you will just create a bigger EGO, (mind construction), and you will miss the REAL SELF. I agree with you in principle. It has been my experience that letting my ego grow and becoming egotistical was a good way to learn the lesson that ego gets in the way. By participating in these acts of egotism etc, the natural law that rules over this phenomenon will teach us through cause and effect and so forth that a inflated ego and mind do get in the way. Sometimes we need a reality jolt to really recognise what fools we can be from our folly. I use the aphorism "It is better to love, than to not to love at all" Apply this to the ego and the mind and you will see my point. I pray to God, that you understand what I'm trying to get at here. I'm just trying to pass on some things I have been successful at uncovering for myself. Fraternally in L.V.X. Jim. ----- Original Message ----- From: TARMSTRONG11@... To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:56 PM Subject: [BardonPraxis] Re: Bardon and the Buddha Sokan, If the mind is essentially "nothingness" then the only reason one would attempt a method, is to try to uncondition it and make it aware of this fact. What other reason is there to pursue "initiation" than to dissolve the mind (ego) in to God, Being, that which 'is'? My point is that ANY method will mean a "doing", and that "doing" is just a round about way to allow the mind to LET GO. If you encourage the mind to grow, the ego to feel superior, even to become one with your "ideal" of God, then you will just create a bigger EGO, (mind construction), and you will miss the REAL SELF. I'm only stressing this because I feel it to be an essential part of any "way" whether it be Bardon, Buddah, Jesus etc. The only reason methods and techniques are felt to be needed is because the mind is ignorant of its true self, its "original face". Ultimately no method is needed, surrender is enough, accept with an open heart God, Truth, Existence etc, and you will know. Methods, teachings are needed ONLY to get back to the SOURCE. Eh, well that's what "I" think anyway... :>) Peace and Happiness, IOX137 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BardonPraxis-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]