Dear Newbie, >> I don't really have problems "hearing" sounds during 5 whole minutes even in a noisy environment, but it happens that fugitive images of a clock or of a hammer cross my mind (as mentionned in IIH) which I quickly dismiss. I'd like to know whether those images alone are also considered as disruptions even if the sound is maintained normally. << To quote Bardon: "When doing these exercises it is *most important* to keep within the limits of auditory concentration, not allowing for pictorial imagination. Should such an imagination emerge, you must banish it immediately. *Never* must the chiming of the bell provoke the imagination of the bell itself. This exercises is completed, as soon as you are able to keep this auditory imagination for five minutes. "Another exercise is the sensory concentrations. Try to produce the sensations of cold, warmth, gravity, lightness, hunger, thirst, tiredness and hold on to this feeling for, at least, five minutes, *without the slightest visual or auditory imagination.*" In other words, it's 5 minutes of auditory concentration *without visual images*. So, yes, images that emerge with your auditory concentration are considered disruptions. The point is to completely isolate each sense. I recommend the Center of Stillness technique of negating the senses as a way to isolate just one sense at a time. For example, when it comes to practicing the auditory concentrations, negate your sense of sight before beginning. This will help train your separation and isolation of the senses and make it much easier to automatically project *just* a sound without emerging visuals. >> Another question concerning visualisation. I had the strong sensation that visualising with open yes was an "quasi act of creation" somewhere, contrary to the same exercise with closed eyes. Did anybody feel the same, or am I the only one being played tricks by his imagination ? << Both are acts of creation. It's just that when we see an image with our eyes open, it *seems* more like what we'd normally consider a creative act. Our brain is more accustomed to accepting visual images, perceived with our eyes open, as "real", than it is accepting those we see with our eyes closed as being "real". Nonetheless, both are equally "real", just at different levels of density. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 12 May 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe