Dear Scott, Nice to hear from you. :) >> Is the 'core' essential meaning the same for everybody that perceives it? In other words, we as individuals will color the perception with subjectivity or emotion, but is the core essential meaning, the root, exactly the same no matter who is perceiving the form? For example, if we look at a rose someone may perceive it's essential meaning as beauty and another as proportion or something different, but at the core; is the innermost essential meaning the same for everybody or does it express itself differently for different people? << Essential meaning is the same for all who *directly* perceive it. Where variation arises is in the *interpretation* of essential meaning. That is when it becomes a subjective, personalized thing, but this is not *direct perception*. Your description of the essential meaning forming a 'core' and the interpretation/subjectification forming an outer shell, so to speak, is *only how it appears*. It appears this way when one is looking through the filter of personal, thinking, interpreting self. But this is really *our* (i.e., the interpreter's) projection, not an attribute of essential meaning. In other words, essential meaning *appears* to be at the 'core' of things only when we look *through* our own filters of subjectification. So what *appears* to conceal it is really only ourselves -- it is never truly concealed or hidden. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 22 May 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe