Dear Martin, >> While practicing VOM at a deep level, I enter into a dreamlike state. I know that this is not the VOM idea, but I am almost dreaming awake and I wonder whether developing this ability could help me in my visualization exercises. The images that appear in this state are absolutely plastic and real, (as in dreams), but I am conscious while that happen. The "problem" is that I do not call the images into being. My thinking is that this last part would be the one that is missing for mastering visualization exercise. << No, this is not a state of mind conducive for the sensory concentration exercises (let alone the VOM). >> I also think that this is a way to understand in a practical way what dreams are. I do not know what could come by exploring this at a deeper level, I would like to ask your opinion and interpretation. << Well, there's one sure way for you to find out and that's by exploring it more thoroughly. :) My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 02 Jun 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe