Lol Figured that :) ! The only reasons i thought to ask was i increase my time each meditation, in effect pushing myself and i have ALWAYS had a pathetic sense of time (what an hour has passed????). That and i never experienced that sort of "i know it before i know it" sort of feeling. Oh well just thought i would ask, thanks again Rawn! LVX Frater Draco "I shall not fear. Fear is the mind killer.I shall face my fear and let it pass through me!" -Frank Hebert --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]