Thanks, Ron; I will repost today my introduction. I have finally found a logical, practical stey-by-step, balanced source of information in this group and in the published teachings of Franz Bardon. To this I give a heartfelt "thanks." As I will probably be spending the better part of the rest of my life within this discussion group by preference it feels right to give a short description of where I have been along my path. My personal intention of studying first with the IIH and following through the steps of the courses here is to respond in the affirmative to the inner calling of my Father, IHVH, the father and creator of all and in all, to become fully actualized in his Holy and Mystical Qaballa to assist with his will, others within creation and balancing myself. I am age 52. When I was 30 I had an intense inner calling to a then unknown spiritual path within myself. I was an intense and focused learner with a voracious appetite for the sources of human spiritual experience. I found that the sources of eastern as well as western mysticism seemed to be using the same colors, pictures to describe about the same inner path for we humans to self actualize to the fullest of our natural inner abilities. I studied the I-Ching, throwing the coins and reading all three interpretations of the outcome of the coin toss at least 3 times daily for three years. Indeed, becoming in close contact with the law of changes in nature. I studied a pranayamic breath (I forget the name of it, but any researcher can find it by it's description in yogic texts) while living in Madison, Wisconsin which has intense and long winters, of the inner heating breath. It consists of curling the tongue at the sides and closing down breathing through the nostrils. It aches like heck in the tongue muscle for about the first three months of conditioning this muscle to work differently. Guess what? The prize of results came pouring in after that. I could put on thermal undergarments, jeans, shirt and jacket and boots and go walking in a blizzard atop the frozen lake and stand still or while walking meditate in peace for hours, alone. What occurs with this breath is equalizing the temperature inside the lungs along the temperature of the outside air. You don't "feel" as vast of a difference in inner/outer temperatures, therefore you are not freezing. Secondly there is a condensation of breath that occurs at the base of the nasal cavity which drips sweet, warm drops down your throat, which is warming. The third and most interesting effect of the breathing exercise technique is that it causes the body to actually go into a subdued semi-"hybernation" effect. It is very unique and pleasant. Also from the eastern system I learned and meditated on the chackras system within myself. I found that in comparing the two systems of hermetic self initiation, western/eastern that the western was very esoteric and difficult to find "any" step by step helpful instructions, whereas the eastern systems had that all built into them. (Until now, 20 years later, finding the Bardon system, grins). >From meditating on the chackras systems for only the same three years I found that my natural abiliy to help others with a sensitivity to touch and massage techniques really deepened. I can blank out to a white board the inner chackras within myself and allow the chackras energies from another person to imprint their form, texture, energy onto mine and I then can tell exactly what state the other person is in overall. Also I scan my hand held over say the back of a person, maybe two inches above their body and I can actually feel the changes in heat and cold in the flesh of my hand, nerves actually in reality. This clues me in on where there are blockages in the others' nerves, blood flow and muscle constriction. Having this information I can work the learned massage techniques I have and affect healing. It has never left me or misled me through the 20 years I've been helping others. I "began" one study application with the caballa and I was floored by the shear force of the event. What I did was read books by Dione Fortune, McGregor Matthews, even mail ordering an obscure text by him, and by Madame Blavatsky, volumnes by them and I followed no step by step instruction. I simply intuited something (probably wrongly so, to personal injury to myself alone perhaps) and implemented the application to myself. I imagined a caballa ontop of my head. Keter at the forefront top of my head, and each seperioth in its place following, ending with Malkut at the top of the back of my head. I would trace each sephiroth in my mind atop my head while walking meditating. Well, what happened because of this was that I began to feel differing pressures on top of my head. All at once certain things opened up. Suddenly I heard a soft, yet steady high pitch of sounds, differing notes in each ear. Different notes in each ear. They have never turned off to this day. Also, I saw swimming molecules before my eyes. This too has never ceased since that day. And I see at times a fabric infront of my eyes like one is looking through a pair of sheer mesh nylons, or a very fine chicken wire mesh in front of onself. I simply accept these things and don't let them bother me. I am, I might add, to myself and other a stable person. A stable personality, a good person and grounded for the most part. I gave up on the western caballa tradition because there were instantaneous spontaneous results of which there was no available discernable instruction or leadership to turn to. I now find this community and the writings of Franz Bardon and I think, Amen. Finally. I am here to actualize myself fully to the depth that Father IHVH wishes within his will established for me, for the good of others. Ultimately, probably to return to my creator, to return this light to it's source. After the 3 initial years of spiritual studies which were intense (the dali lama was in town, some mystics were searching me out to join thier groups, and some other weird occurances...) I was met by an angel on the railroad tracks while walking meditating on having my mundane past body (behind me and hulk like, slow in movements and bulky), my natural now body (in my physical place) and my astral body (in front of me and at a faster pace than the physical and earthly past body) and having the three bodies in conjunction forming the Do-In movements of the hands, (accomplishing getting the three bodies to work in tandem is quite a task!) in visualization, and the angel held out a rock of coal to me. I accepted the coal only after agreeing "finally" with the angel to not attach love to the angel, but to the gift. And at once a beam of light shot out from my chest and touched the coal in my mentally imagined hands in front of me, and the coal changed instantly to a diamond. Immediately the diamond was attracted to a black hole in my chest where my heart was. I let it enter and immediately a voice came from my chest, with an intense amount of warmth and heat flowing from my body. The voice said; "do you denounce the name of Jesus Christ." I answered that I gave that religious crap up years ago, and the voice simply asked again. Well, my prayer always was for protection to pray trust in faith of the final choices of the practices I was adopting to the center within myself who knew who my creator was. And this voice seemed like it. So, I said "no, I do not deny the name of Jesus." Immediately I began crying and walked home and cried for three days straight. The people of the household whom I was living with took care of me. Often just holding me in their arms and comforting me. The next month I got water baptised and the next month received baptism of the holy spirit and talking/praying in tongues. That night God actually came in a shaft of wonderfully pure light through the top of my head and into my heart saying in the most wonderfully comforting voice; "love all others without distinction" and ... "you can not do this without Jesus". Well, the "knowledge" of the holy spirit and the voice of Father were humbling to all of the other spiritual experiences I had had. I figured the others were just humanly possible events, and that this finally was really God. The difference is like the earth compared to an ant in spiritual weight, gravity and sense. So, for four years I was intense in the church. Serving and learning. I read the Bible two times through, it takes a year each time through. I am dedicated, loyal and voracious when it comes to my learning. After that I left the church because people were too judgmental and hypocritical. I could not in my right conscious stand side by side with these people and profess the same faith. I began to find that God allowed me to use all of the spiritual tools that had opened in the previous studies, and began using massage again and helping others there. Also I did quite a few chackras scans and interpretations for people and friends. For 15 years I have said hello to God in the morning, help me through the day and thank you at night that he indeed has done so, and thanks for being alive in his creation, it sincerely is a good thing. I think he sincerely likes me. grins :) And over the past 15 years I have always gone back and read the Sephir yetzirah and been amazed at the wonderment caused within me over viewing the caballa. This year finally, I began researching it seriously on the internet and found the Franz Bardon web site and his materials and finally this site. My practices in the IIH system to date are for the past 4 weeks or so of writing the 100 positive and 100 negative items list about myself and beginning now to situate them in a listing of the four or five elements. Daily I have meditated in waking and before going to sleep on the caballa stations/sephirot within myself, pronouncing the name IHVH at each place and sometimes merging with the sephirot and being there. Nothing has really actualized yet, but I am also deciding not to mix any methods and stick with the Bardon techniques and follow them through beginning to end and be where I should be. Stable, balanced, and an avid helper in his kingdom created. I wish you all well, Chuck Boyer SeaWinder