Dear Peter, >> 'T' on the other hand, deals mostly with the perception of analogies and that ability to manipulate the materia that those analogies are connected to. << Plus, it takes love in one's heart to master the manipulation of those analogies and, thereby, the materia connected to them. >> Both can essentially accomplish the same thing, just in slightly different fashions. << Bardon's 'T' and 'J' are closely related in that they are both linguals. His 'J' is equivalent to the Hebrew 'Tav' or sharp 'Th' consonant. If you try pronouncing these, one after the other, you'll see how they are hidden in the same place in the mouth and in the same way. The 'Tav' (pronounced properly) ignites the same dark opalescence that Bardon described for the 'J'. It is the 'Tav' materia, within which the analogies exist, that one makes use of in mummial magic. But it's the cognizance of these analogies that empowers mummial magic and this is why I would attribute it to 'Teth' instead of 'Tav'. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 21 Jul 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe