Dear M., >> Thanks for the information, It sounds quite exciting. However, would the reasonably advanced visualizations required by the 8-Temples project not be too complex for a person working through the first, or even second step of IIH? Perhaps I make this assumption because I tend to find open eye visualizations easier than closed eye visualizations. << Each person who pursues the 8T, gets out of it what they are able to receive based upon their abilities, their level of maturity, what they put into it, etc. Besides, there's no law that says you can't pursue the visualizations of the meditation rituals with your eyes open! :) My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 15 Sept 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe