Dear M., Though I am definitely not Rawn, I can answer you that :) In the introductory text of 8-Temples, Rawn clearely states, that there is no need for any advanced skill except for the imagination (willingness is also required :) I am not so well developed person, and I've got much difficulty with visualizing anything... But my 8-Temples meditations were/are just GREAT ! I perceive them through my imagination solely - at times not seeing a single thing ! But at some other points, I have extremely complex visions (though they were rather mental than visual, so to speak). So my advice is - try it, you do not loose anything :) Take care, Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: metaphysics0000 To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 11:19 PM Subject: [BardonPraxis] Re: book 231 paths/gates Dear Rawn, Thanks for the information, It sounds quite exciting. However, would the reasonably advanced visualizations required by the 8-Temples project not be too complex for a person working through the first, or even second step of IIH? Perhaps I make this assumption because I tend to find open eye visualizations easier than closed eye visualizations. All the best, M [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]