> >> Although I experience what Rawn means by his first sentence, I do not > perceive any thoughts in my surface awareness, as suggested by the > second sentence. What am I doing wrong? What should I improve? << > > You haven't done anything wrong. :) With the first exercise, you > observe what happens in *your* mind, as it is. *Your* mind obviously > goes totally quiet. Hmm. I have exactly the same condition as Oliver, and I wonder - for the third exercise, should I eliminate those "deep" thoughts as well, so that I will be left with a _completely_ empty mind, and not just an empty _surface_ mind? If I indeed should get rid of them, how exactly? I know how to quiet down my surface thoughts, but how can I quiet thoughts that I'm not even fully aware of unless I actively try to bring them up? I'm rather sure that I'll need a _fully_ quiet mind at some point.. P.S This is my first post to this message board, hopefully the first of many fruitful ones. I have to thank you, Rawn, for your commentaries. They truly shed light on many parts of Bardon's work which were naturally in the dark for one, like myself, who has just began the work. Thanks in advance, Daniel Gutmanas, Israel, 29/09/03