Dear NB, >> It's just that the two terms were sometimes used for things which were not supposed to have either quantity or quality. << :) From an Hermetic perspective, every thing is a quantifiable manifestation of a quality. >> By *eternal realm*, do you mean the mental plane and above (not subject to space and time) ?. << By 'eternal realm' I refer specifically to the non-sequential realm. The eternal realm is the Akasha and only the uppermost reaches of the mental realm. Much of the total mental realm, exists within the realm of sequence as does the whole of the astral and physical realms. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 10 Nov 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe