Hi David, I'm glad to hear that we agree about the similarities in Bates's and Bardon's approaches. A relaxed and disciplined mind seems to improve all bodily functions, the eyes included. Dan --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "David Yeh" <ldreamr@y...> wrote: > Hi Dan, > > I too have explored the Bates method and noticed some similarities > between Bates and Bardon. Based on my limited experience, I've found > that many aspects of the mental exercises coincide with aspects of > the Bates method. For instance, Bates' idea that you can only see or > think of one thing clearly at a time is similar in some respects to > thought discipline: my mind is always all over the place and I find > that when I am more in the present, this eases stress on my eyes and > vision as well. The subtext being that this only works if you are > not exerting effort; Bates talks about "voluntary" and "involuntary > concentration," the former being unhealthy because it involves > forcing the mind, which is counterproductive and generates tension. > Overall, it seems to me from my reading and experience that the > relaxing and disciplining of the mind is strongly correlated to the > restoration of good vision. > > I don't know anything about the Hermetic view of eyesight loss per se > so I'll stop there in case this wasn't where you're wanting to go > with your question. > > > David