Hi, I understand your take on competition; but there is only one goal of competition to elevate somebody to the position of superior and one to inferior. The entire process creates disequilibrium and is unnecessary in a divine sense; anyone partiaking in any competition, unless iwth a desire to lose in the first palce si still hoping to create a disequilibrium in a situation which did not previously exist. Any magician who knowingly desires to create such a disequilibrium, especially with regards to his own "enjoyment" will find many obstacles in his way further down the path. Furthermore, even if your intention was perfect and he above statement untrue; you are unable to take in to account the negative emotions created within your opponent if you do win and are thus generating a negative breeding pool. Competition is human baggage unless specifically necessary pertaining to physical survival, and even then has to be seriously considered. Mark --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "lux xul" <luxxul@h...> wrote: > > Hello. Thank you for your post. However, I respectfully disagree with your > conclusion. There is even the taste of competition within your post. > > I would favor the hypothesis that "part of magical initiation" is to not be > seduced into worshipping at the alter (metaphor) of competition.. it takes > ones focus form the goal... and that depends upon what the desire is in > relation to, rather than the idea of "competition" itself. > > Consider the "balancing of the elements", even that is in a sense a > competition between focuses (competition between neg/pos elemental balances? > insecurities? etc... THe very act of seeking balance, one must refocus > elsewhere... and that can mean a 'competing' focus of will (interruptions, > etc.) . > > I believe that the ideal competetive sense is not RAMMED into anyone. It is > a common experience in anything that exists. WHat we do with it and how much > we surrender to the negative OF the concept, is again, a competiton, AND of > our own choosing based upon our own interpretation relative to our own > priorities and self understanding.. > > but alas, is also a seduction into the glamour of a type of superiority > based within the hiding of our own insecurity. > > Perhaps the REAL "part of the magical intiation" is to not be threatened BY > the concept and try top get rid of it, accept it as within its sphere, enjoy > it where one may and never to lose sight that IT (the act or desire to > compete) is not who or what we are, but something we either wish and choose > to enjoy or not (and in an ethical and balanced, concientious and respectful > manner. > > THen the sting and the glamour may be removed from it and we can again set > it upon its correct and balanced course as well as place in manifestation. > > It has been said that "The mind cannot move AWAY from anything, only TOWARD > something else." > > Rest, > :T: > > >From: mark towse <bigimpact2003@y...> > >Reply-To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com > >To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Digest Number 361 > >Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:44:46 +0000 (GMT) > > > >Hi guys, > > > >Interestingly part of the magical initiation is a recognition that all > >forms of competition are worthless; a very hard part for many people to let > >go from given how competing is rammed into everyone from early age. It is > >based on the principal of balance, and that the only perfect result in any > >competition is for two oposing parties to draw / tie which renders the > >point of competing in the first place useless. If you beat someone, you are > >better in that instance than they, and there is no point in beating > >somebody not as strong in a certain competitive event than you - other than > >for self gratification, ego, killer instinct etc. > > > >Martial artists, particualrly those who actively compete, or even at the > >sparring level, have to try to hit your opponent - unless yoru colleagues > >are willing to just let you parry, which is still a form of competition > >thus like many things, at a certain level it just has to go! > > > >I had to give up Judo 6 months back, there was just no point any more! > > > >The other Mark > > > > > > > >Mark Rasmus <markrasmus@y...> wrote: > >Hi Zach, > >I wish to take the next step in building a non harming > >vibration in my field. Sparring generates too much > >static in the field. Ideally one should be empty > >during sparring but in this case it is easier to just > >let the 28 year habit go. Everything has an end. > >Blessings > >Mark > > > > > > > Dear Mark, > > > > > > I''m interested why are you giving up martial arts, > > > do you find practising > > > them clashes with your Bardon practice? > > > > > > best > > > > > > Zach > > > > > >===== > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > >http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis/ > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >BardonPraxis-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > >BT Yahoo! 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