Dear David, >> On the whole, though, I think the main reason that I would stick with this path is precisely because it makes me face my patterns and where I am stuck. << Hopefully without sounding too patronizing or paternalistic, I want to congratulate you. :) It always makes me feel good when I have the opportunity to witness someone who struggles at first but sticks with it to the point where they begin to see the point and therefore the true value of this work. In many ways, it is the fulfillment of my own work of supporting folks involved in Bardonism and that provides me with a sense of personal satisfaction. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 11 Feb 2004 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe