Regulus, > In recent years there has been a trend in the counseling community > to distinguish psychological issues from spiritual ones. In the > context of your previous posting what to do you think of this > distinction? I'm not sure I understand your distinction between psychological and spiritual. To me, your examples -- reflecting on life, learning to care for others -- were both psychological and spiritual. I think I have a sense of where you're coming from, though (correct me if I'm wrong): "If all of these other things work well, why Bardon?" Or, why climb Mt Everest if there's nothing to prove? I guess on some level I feel that I have something to prove, or to express, by doing any particular thing. So, I think that a person should choose a path in order to express some part of him/herself. If your hypothetical man X does not have any drive to learn IIH, then perhaps he shouldn't. On the other hand, your question prompted me to ask myself why I'm on this path. There are a lot of different little answers. I prefer a self-guided structure I can follow on my own time in my own way. I am attracted to learning how to contact my own life and soul more deeply. And I think special powers are "cool." And lots of other things in between. Some of those things, like the negative, greedy aspect of attraction to special powers, I recognize as things that I should and will "burn off" as I do more work on my soul mirror, but they are there nonetheless. So I guess my final answer as to my wanting is: It's complex. Personally, the bottom line for me is that if I weren't involved with Bardon, I would be involved with some kind of spiritual practice, as I have been since I was in high school (I think it runs in the family, though in very different ways -- my mom is a conservative Christian). So spiritual practice in general is an expression of who I am, and following this particular path is, for the moment, a refined expression of who I am. I refine and personalize it in order to incorporate it into my life, and it refines me in turn; and all of that is self-expression. Pursuing spirituality is for me a very fulfilling thing, in a bodily way -- like, for instance, the feeling of openness and nakedness when I am honest with myself and realize, with wrenching gut, that I've been engaging in a destructive pattern in my life. It's fun, in a deeper way. It's exciting. I feel good. I like the effects it has on my life; I feel happier and more balanced the more I do it. So I keep doing it. :) Hope this makes sense. David