>> I dont see it as them making a judgement call to protect us as much as simply not being able to speak clearly or persceive clearly something that is not clearly their element (like/like). No? Thoughts? << The beings of the Elements do not make "judgment calls" in the human sense. They simply enact the impersonal forces of Nature specific to their Element. As such, they immediately react to the presence of anything foreign and threatening to their environment, which is what an immature magician proves themselves to be if they force themselves upon the Elemental beings. As soon as the magician effectively enters the Elemental realm, through filling their mental body with the Element and taking on the shape of an Elemental being, the beings of the realm will be able to perceive the magician (whether the magician can perceive them or not) *and* will be able to affect the magician. By appearing in the form of the Element's being and keeping to yourself, so to speak, you will most likely be recognized as foreign but *not* as an immediate threat of any kind. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 31 Aug 2004 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe