I don't think the intention behind the silence pillar is to avoid all discussion. After all, the training is in print, it's not exactly hidden from the world. Hermeticism has existed as an 'academic' discipline since the study of Ancient Egyptian history and beyond. There are degree disciplines in Europe that study the Hermetic current and its influence within society. There are ways to introduce it into conversation without any raised eyebrows ;-) Beyond that, I reckon the 'Silence' aspect has a lot to do with your own 'practice', especially the further you progress, and avoiding the feeling that you're somehow better than others. Further on, its about showing you're able to be responsible with such knowledge. And obviously, as Rawn mentioned elsewhere, ensuring your pursuit of Bardon isn't for the purpose of a 'talking point', and is for the right reasons. One can also think of the silence as an inner quality, with very little to do with the act of 'talking', beyond the obvious points made. So much of Bardon relies upon reaching, sustaining and deepening the Emptiness of Mind. Is this not silence? Just a few thoughts. Richard -----Original Message----- From: Jwingate2002@... [mailto:Jwingate2002@...] Sent: 02 September 2004 10:50 To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BardonPraxis] Strange... >From where I sit the Step 1 work with soul mirrors is outstanding. In fact the whole of Step 1 is wonderful. I began by thinking I couldn't wait to accumulate a few elements, meet a sylph or two, and do some cool mental travelling - but this is better than any of that. It is life-changing. It is wonderful. As I go through it I keep thinking, I wish I could tell other people how to do this. I know we have to keep silent but it seems to me that the technique is a very valid alternative to all the me-me-meness, the endless therapy schools, the moral vapidity that people are subjected to. Simply exercise, have a cold shower, observe your thoughts, and write down your worst and best characteristics. It's... like magic! It offers perspective, I feel like I'm breathing for the first time in a long time to have everything just where I can see it. It's calisthenic, you do it, you put effort in and out pops reward. One of my (Lesser) negative traits is my blabbering mouth. I want to tell everyone what is happening but I don't necessarily think it's such a good idea. All I'm saying is, I wish everyone could do this. I feel kind of separated from other people. Most of the people I know I would classify as 'good' people, which I would define as people trying to work on themselves. I think these techniques are like a moral boot camp, something that would clear up alot of issues for alot of people I know. But I also don't feel I can honestly tell anyone about them. I know there is a way forward that any fool can take who is dissatisfied with themselves, you don't need to pay fees and you will make progress. But I have to keep it a secret! It's hard.... that's all! Sorry to whine, best wishes to all on the list, Jason [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129vau0e6/M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/ D=groups/S=1705077360:HM/EXP=1094224670/A=2319501/R=0/SIG=11tq0u909/*htt p://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185353&partid=5285298> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2319501/rand=970416981> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BardonPraxis-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BardonPraxis-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]