Hi, I just had a couple more questions? Are the elements quantifiable on the mental and astral planes? Or, as with physical matter, are we only observing the effects of their qualities when the astral and mental bodies undergo state changes. Do the elements only *exist* in the akasha? Are the elements the essential meaning behind forms? Is there any relationship to how the elements spin tetrapolarly, and how the five platonic solids fit together to form Metatron's cube? I'm wondering because each platonic solid is said to be an element.. and they all fit together! (there are five of them) Yes I know, the actual shape or form isn't the element, just the same as physical fire isn't fire. But do the shapes strongly express the essential meaning of the element (like gold expresses GOld), or is the assignment of each element to a shape more or less arbitrary? If you could conform your mental body to the platonic solids, fitting one inside another, and given that each element corresponds to a platonic solid, would it be possible to fuse them all together by completely identifying with the shapes and spinning them very fast? Much thanks, Dustin _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush