My last post was a bit manic I'm afraid, so I thought I'd compress it a little. What is the Will in your personal experience Rawn? (Bardon says it's an essential aspect of the spirit..mmm) I ask because I have developed a kind of anti-will attitude, and believe that some how it is unimportant if my aim is 'no-mind' or vacency of mind. I just need to absolutely know before I act. I'm getting closer to the Bardonian view though. My experience of no-mind has cleared out my head, and let me see things from a centred point of view, but in your opinion are the steps 1 and 2 of level 1 just as important as vom? (I think I know what you will say!) Thanking you, IOX