Thanks, Jason; I used Rawn's CSM and TMO quite a lot at the beginning of my studies. At one point I found out that I was stretching way too thin with 8 Temples, Rawn's web site, the Archaeous... and it all was pulling 'me' 'myself' (not that it would also do it for anybody else as it did to me, just my personal call on my own growth) way too far off track from the first three Steps of IIH. So, I backed off from 'other' possible helpful studies and I focused only on Bardon techniques in the steps themselves. So... there is far too much on Rawn's site for me to remember or recall what specifically you are referring to. :) Do you mean the picture of a circle divided into quadrants, red- fire, green-water, blue-air, and yellow-earth? Where it signifies hot, dry, wet, moist, etc? I know that one if you mean that. I printed that one out a year and 1/2 ago and have it around. About all I got from your own personal experience in that description was that through meditation you actually ascertain the 'movement' 'motion' of the four elements. Please don't take this as getting down on you Jason. It's just that "I" love personal descriptions from others' experiences. And 'this' has helped me out the most in deciding whether to go this or that way in my studies, 'then' I apply myself and come to my own decisions. But it is 'always' helpful to me to get others' descriptions of their experiences :) Please take that as encouraging and not putting down in any way. It's just that there's so much more you could be saying that I want to touch and be touched with inside of your experiences :) I wish you well Chuck --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, Jwingate2002@a... wrote: > Hey Chuck, > > >>but what exactly do 'you' mean when you > use the tetragrammaton in the meditation please?<< > > > Sorry if I wasn't clear, but I thought I was. Did you never see that diagram > of the tetragrammaton though? I was operating on the assumption that you've > read Rawn's stuff, but maybe you haven't. In IIH there isn't an actual > *picture* of the tetragrammaton, a *diagram* I mean to say, but you can find how to > draw a simple one in Rawn's theory notes on his site. > > Once you have that you'll see what I mean... which is, the tetragrammaton > just means the four elements, the tetrapolar magnet, considered as a single > interacting unit that springs from the 5th element. By meditating *on* it, you > see not only the characteristics of each element individually but also why > they *must* have those characteristics, given how they interact. How anything > can be considered as composed of them only. Why whatever is not one must be > another. Etc etc. The tetragrammaton is not really a static symbol, it implies > kinds of motion. > > Hope that clears that up? But am not sure! best Jason > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]