Bows to Chuck - >>That is what I do sometimes while meditating on the tetragrammaton.<< Well it's not what I do! I can see what you're doing but you're way way ahead of me here, (as well you know!) at step 1 I'm just concerned with how I feel. It would be lovely to work with image/feelings the way you do - maybe I'll try, but not right now, I have a hard enough time with the cold shower! My actual watching of the tetragrammaton at the moment is happening in a shadowy intuitiony part of myself that i haven't any clue about yet. Nice to see a glimpse of what's possible with a well-trained spirit though dude. Daggers definitely firmly sheathed. Love, respect, bow - Jason [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]