Dear Paulo, >> I had more or less the same opinion as you do (that is, hey, even mr bardon did it so it cannot be that bad) << I don't believe that John actually used this as a justification. In fact, I didn't understand any of what he wrote as a justification or excuse for smoking tobacco. :) To my mind, he seemed to merely be asking a question about Eucharistic magic. >> but Mr. Bardon was not a normal guy and he could probably disperse all ill effects of smoking with one single meditation. << Be that as it may or may not be, speculation aside you must remember that Bardon lived in the first part of the last century -- before commercial cigarettes where filled with chemicals. The detrimental effects of smoking *organically grown* tobacco are far, far different than the well documented ill effects of smoking *commercial cigarettes*. The chemicals used to grow commercial tobacco, the chemicals it is treated with in processing, the chemicals that are intentionally added to make the cigarette more physically addictive and the chemicals gassed-off by the *filter* when heated by hot smoke *are* indeed very, very harmful. But Bardon lived and smoked in a time when these toxic chemicals were not a part of "smoking". Additionally, according to "Memories of Franz Bardon", he smoked a special blend of tobacco and other herbs. There are many herbs that help the body counteract the detrimental effects of smoking tobacco and my guess would be that one or more of those herbs were in his special blend. :) Also noted in "Memories" is that Bardon smoked tobacco specifically for the stimulating effects of nicotine. He purportedly quit smoking periodically to strengthen his will and to assure himself that he was in control of the physically and psychologically addictive aspects of nicotine and the habit of smoking. >> I, on the other hand, cannot. << Good! :) We should never use the example of another's behaviour as a "justification" or "excuse" for our own behaviour -- especially when we are only guessing at the other person's motivations. The Soul Mirror teaches us that we must be the deciders of our own behaviour, based upon our own self-knowledge and self-choice. >> For me, smoking is not about the physical problems it brings (and it does bring) but it is more about self control and being in control, opposite of being controlled by it. My major turning point was when I decided to stop. The first few days where really bad, but after a week or so I could feel the difference. After a month, I thought I was behaving very well and I decided to smoke one cigarette. Since then, I have been on and off, but every time I start/stop is with more consciousness about it and less addiction. For times I feel I change the polarity of it, going from absolute anti-smoking fanatic to compulsive smoker. Right now I think the real issue is the consciousness of the act, and the perception of the loss of self-control when smoking (i.e. urge to smoke without being my real will; an addiction without being wanted). << The central issue is whether or not you have really decided to quit. When you *really* decide to do it, *nothing* will dissuade you, not even the weasely inner voice with which you convince yourself it's okay to have "just one". :) And of course, as with the transformation of any habit, you must create an alternative *positive* habit to replace the *negative* habit. >> I am not sure what is Rawn's path on smoking, but I'm almost sure he will agree that in any smoker's Soul Mirror there will be dozens, if not hundreds, of minor reasons for smoking, usually in the negative side. (lack of self-confidence, lack of self-control, boredom, etc...) << Well, the reasons for giving up that control to the substance of addiction in the first place are usually *major* Soul Mirror issues, not minor ones. ;-) But those can (and if one is to pursue initiation, they *must*) be addressed and resolved. That is part of the Soul Mirror *work* of character transformation. In so far as *my* personal "path on smoking" goes, I find that smoking filterless, hand rolled (by my hands) organic tobacco is very pleasurable and very beneficial on a number of levels. I employ a variety of herbs in my life, one of which is tobacco. :) The essential oils and more volatile parts of organically grown tobacco, ingested through the smoking process, have personally useful effects upon my body which I consciously use to my advantage. I successfully counter the negative effect upon my lungs with herbal expectorants and the art of creative coughing. :) I am not so vain as to care what anyone thinks of my stained teeth and I am circumspect with my tobacco scented presence and breath when in public. I am very respectful of others when I smoke in public and expect others to be equally respectful when they visit my smoke filled home. :) While I do experience a physical addiction to nicotine (i.e., when I stop smoking I experience physical withdrawal), I do not experience an emotional addiction, having resolved that aspect of "smoking" many years ago. So for *me*, it is not a negative experience. I *enjoy* smoking and for *me* the benefits *I* reap from the experience far outweigh any physical detriment. :) >> Regarding impregnation, I personally think that when you are consciently and knowingly inhaling something harmful, it is quite hard to impregnate that moment with a positive thing. Even if this happens at the sub-conscient level (which is much more powerful than our conscient level, I think). << You're partially correct. :) You cannot do so with something you are *psychologically addicted to*, because is that case your subconscious mind will truly counteract any positive effect. However, if you are ingesting something such as a Big Mac for example, which you *know* is bad for you, it is still possible (assuming you're not addicted to them) to impregnate it with your usual positive ideation. :) Or if you're taking a medication that has negative "side-effects" that you're aware of, you can successfully impregnate the medication with an ideation that you will not be severely affected by those side-effects. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 15 Jan 2005 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe