Dear Mark, >> It is important to note that often the underlying will of the *All* is present in ways the author of a note/article/book/song etc. is often never aware of, and the underlying meaning can only be unlocked by those gifted with sufficient insight and development. The underlying intent of the post was for the author to be made aware that smoking is not healthy and to have a self created veil lifted with which he can subsequently work. << :) And just as often a message is exactly what it appears. Many times, the assumption that there is a) something underlying and b) that you know exactly what it is, leaves the primary question unanswered. At that point, the response becomes about the responder and not the question. >> Interestingly you state you have a physcial addiction, but have sorted out the emtional level of your problem. This still doesn't change the fact you have a physical and negative addiction, which you need to balance out with healing remedies and magic. << Egotism is an interesting beast, especially as it manifests in those pursuing a magical initiation. I've lost count of the number of messages to BardonPraxis I've rejected because they had to do with nothing other than the author's own ego needs to impress others! Frequently this is manifested as a person telling another person what they "need" to do in order to make themselves a better person, better magician, etc. And most often, these assertions are based upon erroneous assumptions colored by the author's own internal struggles. Or even when the assumptions are correct, there is still the author's own need to give directions where they have no business giving them. Frankly, while you are welcome to your opinions about me and about smoking, you are not welcome to tell me what I "need" to do. *I* decide what *I* need do. That is the essence of the Soul Mirror work of character transformation -- that we each must consciously decide what *we* are to do or not do based upon *our own* understanding of ourselves. A related lesson that *hopefully* arises during the experience of the Soul Mirror work is that it is none of *our* business what others choose -- that is *their* choice and *their* responsibility, just as *our* choices are *ours*. >> Occasional smoking can indeed be useful as a stimulant for certain activities, but claiming that a consitent phsyical addiction (and your wonderful yellow teeth!) is not negative << ;-) It is always interesting to me to see what parts of my statements folks will completely overlook in their rush to react to those parts of my words that strike some sort of internal chord. It reveals a lot about where they are coming from and what issues are most prevalent for them. For the record, I did not claim that smoking or any part of it, was "not negative". I repeatedly emphasized the fact that I was speaking about *my* experience. To quote -- "So for *me*, it is not a negative experience. I *enjoy* smoking and for *me* the benefits *I* reap from the experience far outweigh any physical detriment." >> puts out a highly incorrect and negative message to the more impressopnable and less strongly willed. << *My* message, regardless of how you have interpreted it, was in response to a question about *my* experience with smoking and I answered speaking only for *my*self. It was *completely* correct for *me* as a statement of *my* experience. Besides, the members of this list are intelligent enough to actually think for themselves! :) My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 16 Jan 2005 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe