Dear Patrik, >> *** So, what does *noble* mean, especially concerning passions? *** Those it just mean to *master* those (not so nice looking) larvae like sexual passions or smoking larvae in terms of *control* them by your will, so it is your will deciding *when* to smoke or having sexual pleasure and when not, as a kind of time-regulation how often? Or does it rather mean *transforming* those not so nice looking larvae or elementals into more beautiful looking ones, so one has then *beautiful-noble* sexual passion larvae instead of heavy dark one? << Yes, to both. :) The first -- taking control of your negative passions -- is *part of* the process whereby you *transform* your negative traits *into a positive alternative*. What you must understand is that the "larvae" and "elementals" you describe are *astral* and are composed of how a person *feels*, at an *emotional level*, about what they are thinking and doing or not doing, etc.. This is a *reflection* (but not a *direct perception*) of the person's thinking since the root of all emotional responses is in a person's habits of thinking. Character *transformation* occurs at three levels: 1) the level of thinking; 2) the emotional level of feeling; and, 3) the physical level of day-to-day behaviour. In order to be successful and lasting and of a quality capable of creating an astral Equilibrium of the Elements, *all three levels* must be pursued simultaneously. The process of transformation begins with and hinges upon the Soul Mirror *self* analysis of the *present* character. This requires an absolute or "radical" honesty with oneself and here is where the perennial analogy of the murderer or "black magician" is absurd. By definition such an individual would be constitutionally incapable of this degree of self-honesty. Self-honesty means that *every* valuation you make about your character must be based solely upon how *you* *feel* emotionally and what *you* *think* about *your own* actions, emotional habits and habits of thinking (i.e., your manifest character). When you begin interjecting what others think or feel or do then you are not reaching all the way down to what *you* are thinking or feeling. *Your* thoughts and feelings may very well agree with what others *say* they are thinking and feeling, and that's perfectly "okay" so long as they are *your* feelings and thoughts. And likewise, *your* thoughts and feelings may very well disagree with what others *say* they are thinking and feeling, and that *also* is perfectly "okay" for *you*, even if no one else agrees. *All* that matters in *this* process is what *you* think and feel about *you*. And of course (I assume this goes without saying but figure I might as well say it anyway just to be sure I'm clear enough), the way that our actions, thoughts and feelings effect others and our environment are important reflections of self that must be considered in any self-evaluation. If we feel really great about ourselves but are alienating every one around us then something is amiss and way out of any sort of *functional* balance. It might be a self-balance suitable for living by oneself in a cave but it wouldn't be suitable in public. ;-) >> Or does it mean for those having successfully mastered step 2, having (for example) removed or transformed more or less *all * larvae and now just to smoke or enjoy sex out of higher noble beautiful mental/astral elementals like lovely looking ones? << *Every* temporal thought and emotion that we generate/create during our lives can be perceived at the astral and mental levels. At the mental level, its *meaning* is directly perceived, but at an astral level only its *emotional significance to the one who generated it* is directly perceived and it is always perceived in the symbolic astral milieu of color and shape. If you look to the mental level of, for example, the astral level orange-red colored sexual manifestation, then you would perceive the person's underlying thoughts about their own sexual energy in that moment and this would reveal to your perception *why* it is that color for that person in that moment at the astral level of your perception. As we grow up we are taught by our culture, religion, family, etc., to feel a certain way about our sexuality. In *general* the way *most* people think and feel about their sexuality manifests as orange-red astrally, but that has to do with what *they* *think and feel about themselves* and not with sexual energy itself. And there's the problem with saying, for example that "orange-red equals sexual energy". For in fact the orange-red doesn't equal the sexual energy -- it equals *how the person feels and thinks about their sexual energy* instead. These are two distinctly separate things. The orange-red can also manifest astrally in a situation where the person *thinks and feels* exactly the same in reaction to something entirely different. Astral *perception* without the faculty of a deeper *mental* understanding can easily lead to making assumptions which distance one from an accurate analysis. As I said, this occurs with *every* thought and feeling of every moment we are alive, so the VAST majority of these manifestations are as fleeting as a thought or emotion can be. But if those thoughts and emotions are habitual and/or obsessive, then that same color will manifest astrally over and over and will gain a more permanent astral existence, eventually effecting the person continuously. The *only* way to *permanently* rid oneself of such a "larva" is to get to its root and *transform one's thinking*. A "larva" such as this *can* be destroyed at the astral level but if the mental root cause has not been transformed then the astral manifestation will inevitably recur. In other words, it is through the process of character transformation which Bardon described that such "larvae" are truly "destroyed". Once the astral Equilibrium of the Elements has been attained and your character has been fully positivized *according to your own valuation* (the Equilibrium is unique to each individual), then the only permanent or enduring "larvae" will be those *you* choose to maintain. In other words, the astral Equilibrium is the "place" of individual power in which *you* take complete responsibility for being who *you* choose to be. These *can* be called or labeled "larvae" or "elementals" but using such ominous labels is unproductive if you don't understand what they are and thereby come to fear them. >> And last question, how can I be sure, concerning sexuality, that need for sex is caused by *noble* elementals and not by eros-schemen? << I bet you already know what I'm going to say. :) The *only* way is through being absolutely honest with yourself and examining what *you* are truly thinking and feeling in that moment. The answer is always right there inside of *you*. You don't need to read a book to find it or ask some one their opinion to find it or take a drug, join a cult, shave your head, etc., etc., etc., to find it . . . all you need to do is look *inside* and be totally honest with *yourself*. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 20 Jan 2005 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe