Thanks a lot for explaining that, Rawn, I think I understand the concept... the closer one gets to 'deity', the less need there is for asking, because we are in fact merging and as a result are automatically party to the information of the Akasha without having to ask for it. Is that correct? Also, can one be considered to be an initiate after having successfully completed the course of study laid out in IIH? I'm sorry is many of my questions seem naive; thi sis all new to me and I've always been a great believer in asking questions in order to probe a new subject. Thanks again, Martin -- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@n...> wrote: > > "Permission" is a tricky word in this context since it implies a > polarized 'asker'-'answerer' process indicative of a separation between > the asker and the answerer. At first, this is the case and it can be > very difficult to discern the answer when one asks "permission". At > this stage, the 'answer' requires testing because it is not based in a > direct, personal knowing. > > This changes however, as one progresses through the Steps. Beginning > with the Step Six work of "Mastering the Akasha", one's *conscious* > relationship with the Akasha is radically transformed and "asking for > permission" is steadily replaced by direct, personal knowing. But even > at this stage it is a sequential process of the 'desire to know' leading > to 'knowing'. > > It's really not until Step Nine that knowing begins to occur without > sequence. And at the point in Step Ten when one has successfully merged > with deity, one IS this knowing and the need to "ask" in any form, drops > away entirely. > > There is also another aspect here. It's not only the karma of the > person to be healed that's important -- the personal karma of the > magician is also a factor. > > My best to you, > :) Rawn Clark > 27 Dec 2002 > rawnclark@n... > rawn@a... > http://www.ABardonCompanion.com