For me the two approaches aren't so wide appart. From my perspective there are two kinds of will, the hard and the soft. The hard is forced and contrived and the soft is the formation of an intent and letting it unfold in the presence of true being. For example before I do an exercise I think about what I am doing in the exercise, the intent of it, then let it go. After that I do the exercise letting it unfold and bring my full mindfulness/ presence into it. It is almost a letting go of wilfulness. --- sokan108 <carpediem108@...> wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone has had the same experience > I have had in > seeing a relationship to mastering the mind, > emotions and body, and > the meditation practice in Zen and Vipassana > Buddhism. I am > specifically refering to the process of observing > and ultimatley > letting go of thought, feelings (the mirrors) and > the body (asana). > Both traditions if mastered allow the practitoner to > focus the mind > on pure consciousness (vacancy of mind), and to not > be a slave to the > emotional (controling the sub-conscious) and > physical bodies (body > control). Bardons method is governed by an > application of will power, > and Buddhas through developed mindfulness. > > Just food for thought > > Sokan > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > BardonPraxis-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com